Should teenagers (Under 18) be able to date without parents permission?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Slayer77, Nov 24, 2014.

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Should teenagers be able to date without parents consent?

  1. Yes, it's the teenagers choice and he/she knows their partner best.

    26 vote(s)
    72.2%
  2. No, if the teenagers parents don't want them dating, too damn bad you have to wait until 18

    10 vote(s)
    27.8%
  1. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Obviously this isn't minecraft related lol, but I recently had this problem with my parents and I'm pretty damn mad about it. So the question is, should teenagers be able to date who they choose without parents permission? There's a few opinions you could have on this:
    A) Not until you're 18 should you be able to make decisions without parents consent
    B) Dating is not right at all until you find a potential partner in marrige, probably around 20 years+
    C) You should be able to date whoever you like whatever age
    So what are your thoughts and opinions? Should I be able to date at 15? Or are my parents right to refuse me dating?

    And I don't want to hear anything like "you're pathetic asking this on minecraft forums, you must have no friends", I'm asking here because it's the best place I know to get the most opinions, I have asked many of my real life friends on their opinions, just wondering what you all thought.
     
  2. breezeyboy

    breezeyboy Bye :

    Dating younger = No embarrassing moments when your older
     
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  3. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    So you're saying that if you date younger, you'll have the experience and won't have embarrassing dates later in life?
     
  4. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Yes like Breezey said you will get more experience for the future.
     
  5. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    That's definitely true.
     
  6. TheOrangePanda-Im2Good

    TheOrangePanda-Im2Good SkywarsPlayer

    you should be able to date when you fell you are mature enough and ready... differs with different people therefor i am not going to vote
     
  7. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Your Parents must be quite strict then in terms of relationships, as mine just ask me how well the relationship is going sometines...
     
  8. breezeyboy

    breezeyboy Bye :

    My parents don't really care at my age unless it get serious
     
  9. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Haha yeah, it's ridiculous in my opinion. The "rules" with my girlfriend is that if I so much as touch her I don't get to see her anymore. Thank freakin jesus she's staying with me even though my parents are trying to prevent it
     
  10. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    My thoughts exactly.
     
  11. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    So dating isn't serious anymore? Call me old fashioned, but I want to date to get to know my girlfriend better and maybe one day consider marriage. And I'm not condescending, just my counter point, and even if I make counter points I can still agree with you.
     
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  12. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Wow so you can't even hold hands/ hug/ kiss her?
     
  13. breezeyboy

    breezeyboy Bye :

    I never said that.. I said unless it get serious like constant kissing, sleeping over each others etc
     
  14. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Nope, it sucks, a lot... At least around my parents, we still do when they aren't around.
     
  15. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Wow that must suck a lot.
     
  16. breezeyboy

    breezeyboy Bye :

    You need to sit down with your parents and speak with them
     
  17. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    I have, twice in fact. They just don't care enough to listen.
     
  18. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Alright, understood.
     
  19. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Tell them that you want to move on with your life and take it to the next level= a more serious relationship.
     
  20. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    I've done that too, I've said to their faces that I love her. I don't think they understand how serious she and I both are.
     
  21. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    They must still think that you are too young for a serious relationship then, I have a girlfriend myself and they accept it.
     
  22. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    I think that is the problem, but they're wrong. Good for you though, and I wish my parents would accept my relationship.
     
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  23. greyflick

    greyflick Jaydubb03's Assistant. Mr. GreyFlick

    Too l8. I have a gf and all dat
     
  24. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Good for you, but the thread is mainly for your opinion on my problem lol...
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2014
  25. greyflick

    greyflick Jaydubb03's Assistant. Mr. GreyFlick

    Ok sorry I guess
     
  26. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    No need to be sorry, I'm just saying.
     
  27. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    When you are older you don't really date like you do when you are 14 though.
     
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  28. Buritomaker

    Buritomaker New Member

    Girls cost money, Time and effort save it for later.
     
  29. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Well ficklin props for making this debate. Could get quite interesting
     
  30. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    Psh they don't cost as much when your there for the hit and go m8 ;3
     
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  31. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    That's very true, good point.

    True, but I believe if you really love your girl you want to spend the time and effort with and for her and money doesn't matter.

    How could it get interesting because I made it haha?
     
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  32. breezeyboy

    breezeyboy Bye :

    @Slayer77 please don't double or triple post for that matter, use the edit button.
     
  33. Pirlop

    Pirlop New Member

    Im 12 and i have a gf :p but my parents don't know
     
  34. LeMishu

    LeMishu "Don't do today what you can do to tomorrow."

    Your parents are so rood
     
  35. Skythe1pay2win34

    Skythe1pay2win34 New Member

    It shoud be alowd just frowned upon

    cos i am 7 and my gf is a frog like mario so its ok cos im not dead am i?1 so its allowed
     
  36. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    As my dad once told me, if it flies, floats or f*cks, its cheaper to pay for it by the hour.
     
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  37. Evravon30

    Evravon30 Born at a very young age

    Your dads a tank.
     
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  38. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    Your dad is amazing..
     
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  39. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    Yes, parents permission... no one is waiting for that if you love someone
     
  40. Shadow

    Shadow Glongle

    I say B. O agree you'll have more experience however most relationships young end leaving the person heartbroken. Also face rubbing is an issue towards those without gfs- so gfs are tokens to be cool? To not be left out?
    And also dating for jealousy is an issue. Basically people abuse it to get popular and are dicks about it.
    None of that crap happens with mature people.


    Lastly where I live 16+ is the age legally needed to have sex so 2 thing's
    Underage pregnancy
    And I'll wait til I'm over 16 we know why
     
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  41. Caleb Morrison

    Caleb Morrison F3arxB3astly the Sweg Master

    Who says you got to pay to fuck?
     
  42. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    You don't have to, but its cheaper ;D
     
  43. JRaptor77

    JRaptor77 Cya cx

    I'm going to get some hate for my stance on this but...

    I think your parents are, in the long run, doing what's best for you. At adolescent age, people are still trying to find out their true identity and don't completely know who they are just yet (I hope I don't need sources for that but if you want..). Many teen relationships get too intimate too quickly. I mean if you just do it "when you feel you're mature enough" that's pretty much just like, "Well I feel I am mature as an adult and ready for anything in life, even though I'm 13, time to get super serious with my girlfriend". I feel it's just fine to have a girlfriend at your age, but just to make sure you limit yourself and not get "too intimate too quickly" because we all know that that leads to premarital sex... Relationships kinda tend to die like that, and as Shadow said, it leaves the person heartbroken. Most teens aren't emotionally stable enough to deal with quick breakups. And yeah, lots of people just use dating as a social status, so your parents are probably just making sure you're ready to handle what dating really involves :)

    ...

    (leaves thread)
     
  44. Caleb Morrison

    Caleb Morrison F3arxB3astly the Sweg Master

    you sir are my hero<3 I couldnt have said it better. Just dont fuck with your girly friend yet cause you need balls, jks
     
  45. jaydubb03

    jaydubb03 [GodofS3xiness]-Squadcraft Rebel Join us!

    Well when I was in 6th grade about 12 I had my first gf and my parents didn't care but now I'm in 8th grade and not dating since then
     
  46. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Internet problems, I don't mean to.
     
  47. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    That's all good and true, I respect that very much. All of what you said is the truth, but I've talked with my girlfriend and we both don't want to have sex before marriage, it leads to waaaay to many problems. Again what you said about teens using dating as a relationship status is true, but I've been careful, I don't want to date just "to have the status", I've chosen well and once, I'm sure she's the one I can spend many years and possibly most or all of my life with.
     
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  48. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Never go to war without a helmet lads.
     
  49. Shadow

    Shadow Glongle

    Or a fedora *tip*
     
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  50. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    **** parents, it is your life do what you want bro.
     
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  51. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Aha yeah I wish I could, but until I'm 18 they can prevent me from doing basically anything. Even though I can do it behind their backs I'll probably be caught eventually.
     
  52. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    All you need to do is voice your opinion in a respectable and un-deniable manor and they should listen. If not then, if you really want to, just go behind their backs.
    Always works.
     
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  53. JackD

    JackD CheekyMeMe

    I dont know about the countrys rules that you guys follow but in New Zealand we dont need permission to date girls if we are under 18
     
  54. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    I've written three very respectable letters to them and I mention it to them all the time. But nooope.
     
  55. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Technically I don't need "permission" but it's just the respectable thing to do for the guy to ask the girls dad for permission after he has his parents approval. I could technically date her and leave my parents out of it completely, but until I have my driver's license they can pretty much prevent me from being with her... I'm in the US btw.
     
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  56. JackD

    JackD CheekyMeMe

    Lol. I just ask teh ladies out. Then Tell me father later and he's like "high-five"
     
  57. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Plot twist: you get rejected erityme and he hi-fives you for making an effort
     
  58. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

     
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  59. JRaptor77

    JRaptor77 Cya cx

    Woah woah, I think that's getting quite careless

    **** parents? Even though they're the ones raising you, keeping you alive until you're on your own, pretty much spending their whole lives just so you can have a good education and survive. They give their children all of these privileges, but oft children don't even take time to notice...But as long as you're under their roof, I think you ought to live by their standards. They're your parents, your superiors. You can't just raise yourself y'know, and your parents are the ones who choose how you're raised. As soon as you're on your own, you can do whatever the crap you want I guess xD

    On top of that, just "doing it" whenever you feel ready has consequences...

    Alright, and if you agree with all that, then why do you feel your parents aren't doing what's best for you? You say that you and your girlfriend don't want sex before marriage. So are your thoughts like "Well, let's date in every single way except sex"? I'm confused =) I still think that you ought to limit the intimacy of your dating, otherwise it''ll still contribute to problems in the relationship
     
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  60. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    First of all, very well said, and I respect your opinions highly. Kudos.
    But second, I still do agree with you, I believe my parents are TRYING to do what they THINK is best. But in this situation, with me being the guy in the relationship in hand, I KNOW I know better than my parents. That probably sounds really really cocky, but being with this girl is the most amazing feeling I've had in my life... My parents aren't helping anything by refusing me the right to date her. But about your thoughts on us dating and not wanting sex, from my opinion, dating isn't about sex, and shouldn't be about sex, so first thing's first my intentions to date her are for the quality time together and being able to just be with each other without our parents monitoring our every move. Hooking up is about sex, dating is not from my point of view. My intentions aren't to just "get into her pants", I have genuine feelings for this girl and I want to be with her, and sexual activities aren't needed. We are limiting our intimacy though, sex being the boundaries. Not always with intimacy in a relationship lead to problems though, maybe in a frivolous relationship between two people who don't have true feelings for each other, who just "want" things from the other person and will move on after they're satisfied, or just want to date to be in the common crowd with their friends, then it probably will result in problems/broken hearts. But I don't plan on any broken hearts, I could never hurt this girl. I don't plan on dating to fool around, this is a serious intention, and to be honest, even at 15 I feel like I consider her a very possibly candidate for marriage... That probably seems pretty crazy, but she feels the same way about me as well, we actually have plans to exchange promise rings this Valentine's day.
     
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  61. JRaptor77

    JRaptor77 Cya cx

    Ahh
    The problem with quick intimacy in a relationship, though, is that it will tempt one to have sex. You may have the best of intentions while dating and not want to have sex before marriage, but it happens. People will always want to get more and more intimate and eventually come to sex or whatever. It is not an easy thing to control, in fact very hard
    I suppose the question is how you define sex and how you define intimacy. So if you're in bed with each other but you have clothes on, this is alright? <---situations like these are what I'm trying to get at, y'know? So thus if sex is your only boundary anything else would be ok so long as you don't like...(how to phrase this)..Hopefully you know what I mean there. I don't see a problem with less intimate hugging, kissing, etc. as long as it's not what you base your relationship on

    I also respect your opinions greatly, I notice that you really seem to be at grasping what dating is all about. Or rather, ought to be all about haha...By the way good luck with your relationship, I hope you really do go far with it ;)
     
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  62. JackD

    JackD CheekyMeMe

    I dont kn0w, why we are all talking about this on a minecraft forums.
    [​IMG]
     
  63. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Again I agree with you, sex isn't easy to control (specially being a guy:p) and if I'm with a girl who feels the same way back about me, we need to have strong convictions about our boundaries. Teen pregnancy rates have skyrocketed because intimacy is a slippery slope, like you said you may have the best intentions but people always want more and more. And to answer your question about being together with clothes on, it just depends on what we're doing in bed with each other haha. Because we have sat in my bed and been close together before, but we were watching a movie so most of our attention was diverted. Now sleeping together, not the disguised term for having sex, just sleeping in the same bed, I can see that leading to something more that night... And I know what you're getting at with sex being our only boundary... Thank you for all the opinions, thoughts, and concerns, I will definetly be careful with my intamacy around her so things don't get out of hand. And thank you for the good luck wishes haha, I really hope it does go far as well.
     
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  64. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    99% of people can raise a child. If they are attempting to 'protect' me (usually out of ignorance or trying to make themselves look like better parents) for reasons I do not respect, then I will not respect them. As a 17 year-old I haven't needed my parents for 5-6 years for any reason except for the governments decision to make it a necessity for children to go to school and only have a real shot of becoming independent at age 18+. I have to admit my parents are cool, therefore I am cool back to them, but if they weren't then I certainly wouldn't respect their 'wishes' just because they think they are doing what is best.
     
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  65. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    I personally think that teenagers should be able to date when they at an age when they can make logical and successful decisions concerning their morals. That age is the variable for people, not the morals they should stand by when dating. It is important to honor parents, but when someone is 18 they should be able to make their own decisions and begin to live a happy, independent life.
     
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  66. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Why is everyone in this thread using big words lmao
     
  67. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    I always use big words m8
     
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  68. Reese

    Reese Failure is success in progress

    Personally I think it depends on how mature you are. I say a reasonable age would be about 16 - 17, therefore you would have matured a bit.
     
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  69. Bolt_The_Man

    Bolt_The_Man Skywars Addict Staff Member Mod

    Agreed xD .
     
  70. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Young people just can't keep it in their pants :)
     
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  71. Buritomaker

    Buritomaker New Member

    To tru
     
  72. Buritomaker

    Buritomaker New Member

    I probably have a very valid opinion of this from where I live.... Ok well first of all you may have heard or not heard of this area but whatever it's called the "shire" and it's one of the most bogan places on Earth. 1st of all there are two year olds getting fake tans and 10 year old models everything is blown up out of proportion so in relating to this you should wait the people in my area aren't exactly the sharpest or strongest tools in the shed but they advance children at two so at 15 go for gold. Do what you want hit a home run ect just don't do things you'll regret in the long run.. (My grammar is bad cause it's to early for dis shut)
     

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