I think it's time this needs to be addressed

I've noticed a lot recently that a lot of people are throwing around the term "pay2win". This might've always happened, but it seems much more frequent now than it was before. It has started to get out of hand, used as an insult, saying people are "bad at the game" and "need kits and ranks to win". This may be true, but this has become an insult and it needs to stop. It has been the cause of many arguments and has been used to pull the older donators and the newer donators apart, and there really shouldn't be a split in the community like that. Sometimes, it isn't even true, and people are just using a workaround way to say "you suck", which is rude and should not be allowed. So please, stop calling people "pay2win", it's just dumb and offensive :/.

 

I agree yeah. I admit that I started to do that. I hope this stops

 

Agreed.

 

Most people would agree that the new donators have a lack in skill. The main reason we hate most of the new donators is not because of their kits, yes that may be apart of it but the reason we hate them is their attitude, If you have seen @mimy thread about the kits being glitched then you would see we asked normal questions and she/he reacted harshly. Hope noone takes offence to this just wanted to say what i think is going on
~Desktop

 

Also agreed. The old donators were better in every way.

#WillJonnyPlat

 

Y U NO MENTION MEH, cri

 

Oh, yeah, and you too.

 

u make meh cri ;-;

 

I don't really think kitpvp or, any of the other servers where you can donate, are pay2win. It's just that the kits are very unbalanced between the normal and donator kits, when a kit kills you in 2 hits, there's nothing you really can do, heck you can't even hotkey and use your pots. This doesn't mean donator kits are indestructible, but you have to be really good at pvp to take donators down, which isn't the case for 1/2 of players on squadcraft. I think we need to think more about a donator kit that isn't OP but isn't like the normal kits aswell: it needs to be balanced in between.

 

You need to take your channel link out of your sig :/

 

I feel awkward coz i pretty much was the first person around here to start throwing it about xD

 

You do realise that's basically what pay2win is?

 

I don't believe in pay2win, every kit can win one way or another.

 

Not every player has a kit in the first place

 

Hey desktop.what game do you usually play

 

Skywars/Survival games

 

k

 

Not only do new donors need kits to win its also the fact that they ignore none rank(not all but some)players simply because they don't have a rank. I couple of weeks ago _Jerky asked kk_crafter a question and he did not answer back to him because he don't have a rank but as soon as a donor asked him a question he answered. If he does read this and if you say I didn't see his message I will find it very hard to believe that because it was not a crazy day in squad so chat wasn't go fast

 

This term "old donators" and "new donators" is dumb too, because I have never once been calle "pay2win" and I consider myself a new donator. You guys refer to a group of people who may have donated recently and are a bit nooby, but lump whoever has donated within the last however many months with them. All these terms are dumb and should be dropped

That's the main reason I wrote this thread. mimy may be "pay2win", but it is not ok to egg him on telling him that repeatedly, it's just abuse and bullying

 

Basically what I think:

Mini-Games are for people to have a lot of fun right? But should it also be about developing your skills? I could donate for Bedrock right now, but nope. They are too OP and easy. That is why I am sticking with my diamond rank. I personally would like to improve my skills in Minecraft in future references.

 

Uh kden

 

It's not a literal term...

 

^

 

IM A NOOB DONOR ):

 

*nice

 

Depends what sort of attitude people have when it comes to these types of situations.

For instance, say you have a non donor and a bedrock in SW. The non-donor is instantly outclassed, most likely being 1 or 2 shot from select kits that Bedrocks would usually use. Not fair to the non donor, but the Bedrock has donated X amount of money to that server, to get the better kits. Doesn't necessarily make it fair, but its not like every single server will be filled with donators, so at least your not going to lose every single time.

Insulting players for their willingness to pay money to the server is not needed, and doesn't help anybody in anyway, except to vent your 'anger' which is wrongly founded. Get over it, join another game and try again. Thank you.

-Smeags (Apologies for lengthy post, I have a weakness for them)