Not even with a 10 foot pole

Discussion in 'General chat' started by surgetheurge, Jan 14, 2015.

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  1. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    So someone told me that you can see what plugins I use on the skywars servers. And it's true, at the moment you can go and use a minecraft command to see the server's plugins. So I took a look into the permission and I found something funny.

    Code:
        - -essentials.me
        - -bukkit.command.bukkit.me
        - -bukkit.command.bukkit:me
        - -bukkit.command.bukkitme
        - -bukkit.command.me
        - -minecraft.command.me
        - -minecraft:me
        - -minecraft.me
        - -bukkit.command.me
        - -bukkit:me
        - -bukkit.me
        - -bukkit.command.?
        - -bukkit.command.help
        - -bukkit:me
        - -bukkit.command.pl
        - -bukkit.command.plugins
        - -bukkit.commands.bukkit:me
        - -bukkit.me
        - -minecraft.command.me
        - -minecraft:me
        - -minecraft.me
        - -bukkit.command.me
        - -bukkit:me
        - -essentials.me
    Again this isn't my work, the above is yonda's work. 2 permission nodes is all it takes, -bukkit.* -minecraft.* and players wont be able to see the plugins.
    as you can see, 20 permission nodes later you can still do /? and see all the plugins. So would it be smart to trust someone with level of incompetence with master control where a single wrong action can make an entire server disappear forever? No. This is why I made yonda's primary job something that doesn't require development work, not because I didn't trust him as a friend, I did trust him, but because I knew he would make a mistakes that would cause me to spend hundreds of hours every few months to make new servers from scratch. In hind sight I probably shouldn't have trusted him as a friend ether, since he did bs me and start his own server. I would be happy for him if he was actually developing the server with his own hands, instead of having gold and breezy make it for him. Anyway, So I paid yonda 1,000 bucks a month for a year to do one thing, get more mods, so that there is staff, on 24/7 to mute advertisers and spammers. When the server started running out of money I still gave yonda 300 bucks a month. I think the last month or two he stopped asking for money. Probably out of guilt while he was having his own server made for 2 months. I think he asked for like 20 bucks, and i sent him 100. You guys probably know whats coming next. Never at any point did squadcraft have staff around the clock. Everyone was from the same time zone, so there would be like up to 5 mods on at the same time, but during low times there would never be mods on. He complained that its impossible to deselect decent people out of the crowd and that it's too hard to actually get good mods. Instead of doing his job, getting mods, he would work on minigame ideas, and have people build spawns in hub, and he was working on server ideas and stuff. Basically he neglected his duty and did what he wanted to do instead of what I needed him to do. A lot of the mods would go inactive after getting mod. I guess they got bored of it when they finally got it. Finally there was the mods leaving and stuff. If his job, or service, was to hire moderators, and he was paid like 10 grand to do that, wouldn't him taking his mods with him basically undo what I paid him to do? The mods are supposed to love the community and have a drive to help the community. The community is squadcraft.... You don't just go up and leave because you would get mod on some other server. There were a lot of rumors that I would replace the staff with plugins. If the mod doesn't abuse his/her power, there is no reason to demote them even if the server mutes all the advertisers, bans all the hackers, and temp mutes all the toxic players. They can still be there as role models for the community and just be helpful to everyone increasing the quality of the community. I just wanted to write this because some people blame me and have hate boners for me for some reason. I gave yonda 10k to get mods, he failed, there was never enough coverage, started a surge hate club, took the money and the mods. So logically squadcraft is at a loss from business with yonda. It's not like yonda is poor or anywhere close to the position where I was when I was working for noah. He lives with his parents, so free food and home, and also his grandfather passed away giving him 100k. I know he technically cant spend the 95% of it because its for investment only, but im sure if he was homeless and hungry they would let him cash out that 95 grand. So I have absolutely no idea how I am the bad guy here.
     
  2. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    so there is a hacker being banned on kit pvp every 7 minutes today, but we're still getting kitpvp mods.
     
  3. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

    That little liar! He claimed that you were paying him less than a slave, which although he was incorrect (slaves get no payment, servants do) is still a lie. ugh I'm glad we're back on track now. Boy am i glad you didn't give yonda console.
     
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  4. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    HOLD UP,

    Yonda said you only paid 2¢ for his working period of an hour.
    You're now saying you paid thousands for him to find a good moderator..

    Yonda lied to sabotage you?
     
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  5. Thesparrow11

    Thesparrow11 The Rape Ape

    Seems so, that bitch. Lol I feel like an idiot because I wanted to work for him (and squad) at one point.
     
  6. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    Don't curse ._. & same
     
  7. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    A slave is someone who works in exceptionally poor conditions against their will for a small amount of/no money in return, m'lady.
     
  8. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

  9. Buritomaker

    Buritomaker New Member

    Ty <3
     
  10. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

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  11. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    yonda has more money then me right now.
     
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  12. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    >_<
    And he's complaining about work conditions?
     
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  13. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

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  14. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    I'm sure if I purchased a slave,I would feed it ..
     
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  15. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    (My point)
     
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  16. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    ..
    oops I just read if they didn't get food from their owners they would die..
    I had to take a double glance now e.e
     
  17. Tre

    Tre New Member

    Surge told me this on skype ;p, poor surge :(
     
  18. Dibleyy

    Dibleyy The Skywars Vicar

    Lol. The Lies.
     
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  19. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    Are you serious ._.?
     
  20. Dibleyy

    Dibleyy The Skywars Vicar

    Lies on Surge's part that it.
     
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  21. TheOrangePanda-Im2Good

    TheOrangePanda-Im2Good SkywarsPlayer

    This is Not All True My Friend...
     
  22. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Half of this post is bs.

    You wanted me demoted, but I didn't abuse my powers. Makes sense?

    Also mods weren't all from the same time zone. I barely saw some of them because of mine.
     
  23. Lord_Suggs

    Lord_Suggs New Member

  24. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Wow, lol.

    'Power abusive saddistic children'

    Please, look in a mirror and tell me what you see...
     
  25. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    my life just flashed before my eyes *·*
     
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  26. Listen surge. No need to be an immature little brat.

    First of all, look at yourself. You have had not one, but TWO important staff leave because of you. Don't go blame it on Yonda.

    And also, Yonda could have helped. If you gave him Console, none of this would have happened. You lost all of the mostly good staff, and now to replace it with junky plugins and some even trashier mods.
     
  27. LeMishu

    LeMishu "Don't do today what you can do to tomorrow."

    I understand that Yonda did many shits,BUT
    Why all mods got demoted?
    This is wrong.
     
  28. Evravon30

    Evravon30 Born at a very young age

  29. Viridian

    Viridian New Member

    You know Surge I feel sorry for you. So here's a gift, it's called le' rek
     
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  30. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    You are advertising a youtube that advertises ss in every video. Now you are doing it in all caps.
     
  31. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    You don't see me making accounts and posting on your forums so please get out.
     
  32. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Why wasn't he warned?
     
  33. TcWxFUSIONS

    TcWxFUSIONS Mostly known as Joey

    Freedom of speech.
     
  34. Lord_Suggs

    Lord_Suggs New Member

  35. Bolt_The_Man

    Bolt_The_Man Skywars Addict Staff Member Mod

    Evra and yum surge is in the right and you are in the wrong.
     
  36. TcWxFUSIONS

    TcWxFUSIONS Mostly known as Joey

    More sucking up.
     
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  37. Lord_Suggs

    Lord_Suggs New Member

    Does surge's bumhole taste nice
     
  38. Bolt_The_Man

    Bolt_The_Man Skywars Addict Staff Member Mod

    I'm not sucking up I'm just saying you don't see anyone from squadcraft coming on your website and advertising do you? But you advertise here and advertising is a rule. So I'm just saying that surge is in the right which he is.
     
  39. TcWxFUSIONS

    TcWxFUSIONS Mostly known as Joey

    How are we advertising? Have you seen us post the ip?
     
  40. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

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    Lmfao bolt you have no idea..

    When was I advertising? Huh? Show me proof now
     
  41. Dylan_

    Dylan_ SkyWars Player YouTuber

    Jeez, if you were any further up his arse you'd be coming out of his mouth
    You are sucking up. We're not advertising.
     
  42. Thesparrow11

    Thesparrow11 The Rape Ape

    Guys stop arguing and filling my inbox with unimportant spam. :p
     
  43. Bolt_The_Man

    Bolt_The_Man Skywars Addict Staff Member Mod

    Squadcraft is miles better t

    Right now back to the thread
     
  44. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    If surge didn't want arguing he shouldn't have made a bullcrap post. You can unwatch thread if it's really bothering you, though

    We were in the thread this whole time, dummy
     
  45. Evravon30

    Evravon30 Born at a very young age

    Unwatch thread.
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  46. Bolt_The_Man

    Bolt_The_Man Skywars Addict Staff Member Mod

    He makes important threads and there not bad.
     
  47. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    Im going to close this thread because people keep making fake accounts to post crap in here.
     
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