2016 president

Discussion in 'Debates' started by AniJan, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. AniJan

    AniJan Hard work betrays little, But dreams betray many

    Who will be the next president in 2016?



    Jeb Bush. Ben Carson. Chris Christie. Ted Cruz. Carly Fiorina. Jim Gilmore. Lindsey Graham. Mike Huckabee. John Kasich. George Pataki. Rand Paul. Marco Rubio. Rick Santorum. Donald Trump.
     
  2. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    I honestly don't give a shit about politics, the only reason I knew Donald Trump and Obama was through the vines and memes.

    I say @leapster for overlord of the universe
     
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  3. Lynn•Nyteo

    Lynn•Nyteo styles

  4. Revelutionz

    Revelutionz That one dutch guy

    Kayne west
     
  5. Ew
    Obama should be president for the rest of humanity
     
  6. Revelutionz

    Revelutionz That one dutch guy

    Or Kayne West
     
  7. leapster

    leapster Hu3

    Yeah!!!!!
     
  8. wiipro123

    wiipro123 Work hard in silence & let the success make noise.

    ily for putting trump last <3 HilaryFTW
     
  9. The_Uknown_Slayer

    The_Uknown_Slayer New Member

    Donald Trump for me personally. Sure a lot of what he says can piss people off, but it can definitely be true.
     
  10. Oman0202

    Oman0202 Oman Staff Member Mod

    Trump :3 Lets Make America great again
     

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  11. AniJan

    AniJan Hard work betrays little, But dreams betray many

    u r all being deceived!
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  12. SuperSkull04

    SuperSkull04 SuperSkullYT

    Ben Carson, not Donald.

    I only saw he was banning Muslims, not Indians.
     
  13. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    If trump gets president he said hes gonna ban everyone that's from Afghanistan and Iraq so we don't have terriosts .

    Ik lol I messed up.

    :p that's the word Im looking for Muslims
     
  14. SuperSkull04

    SuperSkull04 SuperSkullYT

    It's okay. We mess up at times :). The first step is to admit. I don't know if I want to agree or disagree with this choice.
     
  15. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    I like trump :D
     
  16. SuperSkull04

    SuperSkull04 SuperSkullYT

    He's okay. He just needs to think about what he's going to say before he says it. It's the reason why he says controversial things. Trump doesn't stop to think what he is going to say.
     
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  17. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    yep, and with the banning, It is good because it stops terriosts from coming into America, the bad thing is America is for freedom.
     
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  18. SuperSkull04

    SuperSkull04 SuperSkullYT

    I agree. But, I think Ben Carson would be a good President in my opinion.
     
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  19. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    yeah, He'd be good too
     
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  20. SuperSkull04

    SuperSkull04 SuperSkullYT

    It's either Donald or Ben in my opinion. Ben is actually doing good things by going to different countries and helping homeless kids (even though there are homeless and starving kids in America -_-), but Trump is being racist and he is getting a lot of votes, but he is coming up with good plans. But, I would vote Ben. You?
     
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  21. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    Probably Ben, Idk :p
     
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  22. Revelutionz

    Revelutionz That one dutch guy

    Cant wait for 2020 for kayne west
     
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  23. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    lol :p...
     
  24. Revelutionz

    Revelutionz That one dutch guy

    Kim. K as president wife. Or whatever you call that
     
  25. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    You mean first lady or something?
     
  26. Revelutionz

    Revelutionz That one dutch guy

    Idk i dint live in america
     
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  27. xExoticWeiner

    xExoticWeiner Seahawks got this next year

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
  28. The_Uknown_Slayer

    The_Uknown_Slayer New Member

    Trump's not gonna ban all Muslims from America. His goal is to have strong regulations for Muslims when they come into America.

    You are all aware of the shooting that occurred in California recently, right? Well, had those Muslims (who worked for ISIS) not been able to immigrate to the US, that shooting would've never happened. It's sounds harsh but with the recent terrorist attacks in Paris, we need to be extremely cautious about these things.
     
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  29. Stealthyyyy

    Stealthyyyy The God of Stealth

    Bernie Sanders and Jeb Bush seem to be the most rational. Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, and Ben Carson would be 2nd best. Just please don't vote Hilary Clinton.
     
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  30. Revelutionz

    Revelutionz That one dutch guy

    Isis are not muslims they just think they are
     
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  31. sr950

    sr950 We are totally boned now.

    They are extremists. No different from Nazis and Korean communists. Its 'follow our way or die' method is nothing new.
     
  32. FadingPanda

    FadingPanda Roby Fayer - Ready to Fight (Ft. Tom Gefen)

    I saw Trump get roasted.
    It was amazing.
    I thank my wonderful Civics teacher :3
     
  33. Basilbac

    Basilbac Skyblock King

    To all of you guys talking about 'Muslim terrorists' and stuff, open your eyes. Things like what I'm about to say have been said before, but clearly they've made no impact on people. ISIS IS NOT MUSLIM. ISIS has broken 90% of the rules established in the Quran [Koran (Muslim Holy Book)] - forcing people into Islam, slaughtering innocent people, killing wildlife and burning forests.* 'You must not mutilate dead bodies' - Broken. 'Don't kill a woman, child, or elderly person' - Broken. 'Bring no harm to any trees, nor set them on fire, especially those that are fruitful' - Broken. 'Don't kill the monks in monasteries, nor those in places of worship' - Broken. 'Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle' - Broken. 'Accustom yourselves to do good if people do good, and to not do wrong even if they commit evil' - Broken.

    So, as you can see, ISIS has broken many rules of Islam, and those are simply ones in time of war. So be advised, don't judge Islam by the people who claim to be Muslims and radicalize it. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) preached it many times before his death, expressing and emphasizing the importance of not harming those who are innocent, and all these other rules.


    *Note all these are rough translations and may not be the exact words but convey the same idea.
     
  34. TheHydraPhoenix

    TheHydraPhoenix Marvel Addict

    #TrumpCareWillFixEverything
     
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  35. TheHydraPhoenix

    TheHydraPhoenix Marvel Addict

    ISIS is Muslim. Muslim is not ISIS.
     
  36. Basilbac

    Basilbac Skyblock King

    Muslims wouldn't have done the things they have done. It is not in Islam to force people into your religion
     
  37. MLGProGamer123

    MLGProGamer123 Viva La Vida

    No shit, Sherlock. ISIS just uses a modified version of their religion as an excuse to go apeshit. Similar to how communism of today is NOT how Karl Marx intended it to be.

    ISIS are political pussies. They get their 'fear' element by killing civilians. They've never actually killed an important political symbol, however. The one time an Islamist militant group attempted to kill a Russian government intelligence agent, Russia sent the body of the perpetrator back to the group cut in pieces, and they weren't bothered again for a while. If they try to terrorize government, they'll get some of the most powerful nations on their tails.

    Anyways, I believe Obama's term doesn't end until 2017.
     
  38. Basilbac

    Basilbac Skyblock King

    That's exactly what I was saying. I thought it was like 3 families in a militant group kidnapped a Russian government agent, one of the guy's family all were killed, and they returned the agent no harm done or something
     
  39. MLGProGamer123

    MLGProGamer123 Viva La Vida

    Yea, that sounds like what I was trying to describe. Didn't remember it crystal clearly.
     
  40. TheHydraPhoenix

    TheHydraPhoenix Marvel Addict

    wtf are you talking about... I never said anything like that...
     
  41. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    Donald Trump won't get president, nobody worry.
     
  42. Basilbac

    Basilbac Skyblock King

    If ISIS was Muslim, they wouldn't have gone along, forcing Islam on people and killing those who don't convert. It's un-Islamic. So saying that ISIS is muslim is in reality a faulty statement. They may identify as Muslims, but they go against most values Muslims have, or rather, are supposed to have
     
  43. TheHydraPhoenix

    TheHydraPhoenix Marvel Addict

    They are a type of Muslim. This fight all started over their rightful ruler. ISIS believed a ruler had to be descended from their founder, Muhammad something. (I'm probably wrong about his name). The good Muslims thought anyone could rule as long as they were good. It's like saying every United States president has to be related to George Washington. I just learned this stuff in my social studies class this year. ISIS is su-nee while good Muslims are shi-ah. I didn't spell those right and it might be vice versa
     
  44. Basilbac

    Basilbac Skyblock King

    Absolutely not. To say that is an insult to a good 5-10% of the world population, and you really need to educate yourself before you speak. It was clearly established, by Prophet Muhammad (spellings differ) PBUH that, like I said before, you can not do many of the things ISIS has done, even in war. You are not to force people into Islam, and you are not to kill them if they refuse to convert. Honestly, writing this, I'm shaking by just how offended your post has left me. Sure, there were different sects of Islam, that broke out after Prophet Muhammad PBUH died, but to classify one as 'good Muslims' would be to imply that everyone else is a bad Muslim. And also, there are more sects of Islam than simply Sunni and Shiah.
     
  45. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    You're not Muslim, aren't you?
     
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  46. God Slayer Playz

    God Slayer Playz New Member

    Ik this is old but idc who gets president as I don't live in america.
     
  47. Twerkae

    Twerkae Louis

    I don't live in America but I care for the people who peeps like trump will discriminate
     
  48. God Slayer Playz

    God Slayer Playz New Member

    Yea I guess
     
  49. TheHydraPhoenix

    TheHydraPhoenix Marvel Addict

    nope
     
  50. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    Don't listen to your social studies class lol.. They're probably the same teachers that told you that eating gum while doing a test isn't beneficial.
     
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  51. TheHydraPhoenix

    TheHydraPhoenix Marvel Addict

    we aren't allowed to have gum at school because people always spit it on the grounds
     
  52. God Slayer Playz

    God Slayer Playz New Member

    Same
     
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  53. AniJan

    AniJan Hard work betrays little, But dreams betray many

    If donald gets elected, this will be the new USA anthem
     
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  54. MLGProGamer123

    MLGProGamer123 Viva La Vida

    Wtf

    You shouldn't speak confidently if you're clueless.

    ISIS started in 2013 and stemmed from Al-Qaeda. Now, I assume you mean all extremist Islamic militant groups in general. In the 1980s, Russia invaded Afghanistan. This was called the Soviet-Afghan war. Many people from Arab countries wanted to help the Afghans. After Russia was defeated, some of the helpers developed extremist views. They formed Al-Qaeda, a group which sought to fight any people they believed were against Islam. In Islam, the belief that one has a job to protect and maintain their religion is referred to as Jihad.
     
  55. yea so i cant go there cus im muslim huh? kden
     
  56. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Bernie Sanders.
    He predicted the rise of a group like ISIS in 2002 just when most of the senate and house of representatives, including Hillary Clinton, voted for the Iraq war. He then proceeded to evade Bush and Cheney's fear-mongering and voted against the Iraq war. Now, Hillary Clinton & every republican candidate is attempting to proceed with more perpetual warfare that will solve nothing, whilst Bernie simply wants to look for peace and togetherness. He also is looking to make the top 1% of money earners pay for their greed and recklessness and reinvigorate the working & middle classes. This includes single-payer medicare for all, free college tuition, overturning Citizens United, brining 13 million jobs to America, severely diminishing institutional racism (such as by destroying private prisons and legalising marijuana), rising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, moving away from fossil fuels & using green and renewable energy sources, allowing immigrants a path to citizenship, lowering impoverishment/unemployment/homelessness rates massively, working with Muslim countries to put an end to war & ISIS instead of sending in more American troops to die, improving background checks for guns so no criminals/mentally unstable people can get their hands on them and many other brilliant democratic socialist policies than look out not for the billionaire class and the big corporations, but for the people living in America. Visit FeeltheBern.org & BernieSanders.com to see what he wants to achieve as President & vote/tell people you know to vote for him if you want to see America and the rest of the world truly become what it is meant to be.
     
  57. AniJan

    AniJan Hard work betrays little, But dreams betray many

    Sadly, Donald Trump has 34.7%. Higher than others

    And his racism is getting him votes
     
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  58. Minersof49ers

    Minersof49ers music ig

    Here's the thing- the Koran(Quaran) contradicts itself. It could say one thing (pray towards Israel) then another (pray towards Mecca). What they do is they "override" the previous command. That is commonly practiced by all Muslims, and is practiced by Isis as well. Yes, in the beginning of the Koran, it does say to love, do good, etc... But, in latter verses, it describes "To make friends with neither Christians nor Jews."

    Now, if you want some examples of verses that show the inspiration of what they're doing, look here:

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
    but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

    Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

    Funny thing about this verse is that Mohammed was trying to get his crew to raid caravans for rewards at this time...

    Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

    Anyways, just my two cents on it. I still believe Isis is a direct cause of interpreting the Koran the literal way.
     
  59. Basilbac

    Basilbac Skyblock King


    Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
    but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah
    [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

    OF course. I was wrong. Oh my, I'm so sorry. No, you're wrong. You're extremely wrong, and conveniently are not revealing the whole truth. The aya (verse) before these says 'And fight in the way of Allah those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits. Indeed, Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.


    Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
    Funny thing about this verse is that Mohammed was trying to get his crew to raid caravans for rewards at this time...
    Wrong again. In the ayat (verses) surrounding this aya, it is clearly talking about the rules and regulations of war, and when to/when not to go to war. So before you speak, you should know what you're talking about. It's not telling them to go to war and to fight, but it's telling them that it is a requirement.... Is it not in any other religion in reality?

    Exactly! Those WHO WAGE WAR against Allah and Prophet Muhammad PBUH, and strive to make mischief the their land. Not those who live peacefully away and have done nothing to you.

    All in all, you're 'two cents' is the basics of what you learn in middle school about religion, and you are sure taking the Koran a different way by pulling out the ayat... Maybe you should go into further depth next time you want to basically attack my religion
     
  60. Minersof49ers

    Minersof49ers music ig

    Didn't know you were Muslim, but it all makes sense now. And no, I am not attacking your religion. When I hear Isis shouting "allah Akbar" while slitting people's throats, kind of makes you point to the religion that they are. Now, here's the thing: I understand that they don't interpret it correctly. Most of them are illiterate. But the fact is, Mohammed wasn't a peaceful person. He beheaded 600 Jews at once. I'm not attacking your religion, I just find that what Isis is doing matches what Mohamed was.
     
  61. Basilbac

    Basilbac Skyblock King

    First off, it's Allahu Akbar, not Allah Akbar. For those of you who don't know, this simply means 'God is great', and is used frequently in the 5 daily prayers done by Muslims around the world.

    Another thing: if you do understand that they don't interpret it correctly, why do you continue this dumb argument saying that I'm wrong. That's why I do feel my religion is being attacked by you; you continuously admit your wrong yet still spread this slather.

    Once again, you're leaving out information. Yes, he did behead 600 Jews, possibly even more, at once, but of course you don't choose to give the reason. As any idiot who searches up anything along those lines would no, this happened following a battle, in which a Jewish tribe, Quraysh, pledged their allegiance and assistance to the Prophet, PBUH, and the people of Yathrib (now known as Medina) to fight off their invading enemies. The Jews betrayed the Muslims, plotted against them, and helped the enemies, only to be defeated. As punishment for their betrayal, the people of Quraysh were besieged for roughly a month before surrender, and all male's who had reached puberty were beheaded.


    All in all, you're still leaving out the facts, cutting the real stuff in half, and showing propaganda, the same as is portrayed of Muslims constantly by the media. People read your side and believe it, because they want to. They want to hate Muslims, because hatred is in human nature. So no, what Mohamed did is nothing near what is being done by ISIS. Now please, stop spreading your filthy lies, and either tell the whole truth or step down.
     
  62. Minersof49ers

    Minersof49ers music ig

    K then. First off, I don't hate Muslims (or people of any other religion for that matter), let's get that cleared up. I might not agree with it, but I will never hate you for it. One of my best friends is a Muslim and we get along just fine.

    Secondly, I am not an expert in the Muslim faith, as I am a Christian. I am willing to new ideas, and will now research this for myself. I'm more than happy to admit that the cause of all this is not due to their faith, as that is what I have been told. I understand how you feel, and I'd feel (have felt) the same way if people accused the Catholics in the crusade to being real Christians.

    Lemme do some research and I'll let you know what I come up with.

    Best regards,
    - Miners
     
  63. Creese

    Creese Factions Gold Donator

    OK, so I'm not a big fan of any candidate, in my opinion, it doesn't matter who wins, as long as they get shot and their vice President takes over. So ye.
     
  64. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    can you not? if you're not an expert in Muslims then don't say shit. go back to reading the holy bible
     
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