Debate Topic #6: Should we have a point reset in SkyWars?

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  1. Evravon30

    Evravon30 Born at a very young age

    I would like to get your opinion on a point reset.

    Reasons why I think we should have a point reset:

    Not alot of competition at the moment. :/
    It's hard for new players to get onto the leader-boards and players who are on the leader-boards don't have much competition.
     
  2. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    No I disagree, I have worked hard for my 25K and I really don't want a reset. But I think points might have to reset in 1.8
     
  3. Evravon30

    Evravon30 Born at a very young age

    However, it might give you a chance to become a high ranker on the leaderboards :)
     
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  4. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Now that I think of it, yeah. Since some players are have been here longer have more points, I could pass them...But i'm still thinking
     
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  5. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    People with lower amounts of points (and mr joshy) will want this, because for them it may be harder to get points and this would give them a chance to overtake the higher ranked people.

    However, why make the higher ranked people suffer, after all they've worked for their points? Just so the others can feel better?

    If people who nolifed were high ranked, I'd say yes. But I think the current rankings are *SOMEWHAT* accurate when showing skill levels.

    Complete no from me
     
  6. Yes, the points do seem to be crazy. I agree. Many newcomers go on Skywars, so there should be a select date to start off the point reset.
     
  7. It also seems like it takes a year to get onto the leaderboards as well
     
  8. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Now that I thought about it, NO. The people with higher points earned those, and they shouldn't be taken away because ppl with lower amount of points are behind. And I worked hard for 25K and I'm don't want my time wasted because of a reset.
     
  9. There are a lot of people who are trying to get on the leaderboards though.
     
  10. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    For this calculation I will assume a kit gold. With a gold kit, it should average about 250 seconds a game, to win. This is severely overestimated

    Assuming one deserves to be high on the leaderboard, I'll assume a 1:3 win:loss ratio. In this situation, I would average about 10 points for the win, whilst getting 12 points for 4 kills each game. This equates to 22 points for a win.
    In a losing situation, I will estimate 3 kills per game, with 1 point lost from losing the game, which equates to 8 points per game.

    8*3 = 24 and 1*22 = 22. 22+24 = 46 points per every 1000 (4 * 250) seconds. In one hour there are 3600 seconds, and 3600/1000 = 3.6

    3.6*46 = 166 points per hour, which is a huge underestimate, as it is very easy to gain more points per hour. Nevertheless, to continue.

    Say in the summer, one were to play 5 hours of skywars per day, 5*166 = 830 points a day. To get a high spot, about 40k (from scratch), 40,000/830 = approx 48 days. Remember this is a huge underestimate.

    48 days to get a super high rank is a month and a half, which isn't actually that long. There is definitely enough time left in the summer to get a high rank if you worked for it, and these values are assuming a case a lot worse than someone who deserves to be rank 1 should have.

    Conclusion: DONT RESET POINTS
     
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  11. Minion2317

    Minion2317 smeags and madi are bae

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  12. Beaky67

    Beaky67 Mega Super Ultra Troll

    Yes. Reset points. Twill be much more competitive and fun, apart for steves
     
  13. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    saying because you dont have many points and aren't on the leaders
     
  14. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    Point reset
     
  15. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Yes please,People who just started wont ever get on the leaderboards because they'll be moving up too.
     
  16. Mazari

    Mazari .

    No. But what Yum said is true. I don't play skywars very often but if I was asked to moderate it, I would be on nearly all the times and would have had higher points. But skywars is a free time for me. People have worked their ass of on obtaining the points & I think it should stay. And I know for a fact people with e.g 5K or 2K, would desperately want a reset , but it's fine how it's going.
     
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  17. Mazari

    Mazari .

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  18. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    XD
     
  19. Beaky67

    Beaky67 Mega Super Ultra Troll

    I have 17k points, thats a good amount
     
  20. PuoloE

    PuoloE Skywars Player

    If this does happen, I think more players will quit.
     
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  21. whillZy

    whillZy Mcmmo OG, kitpvp crafter/beast, factions gold

    Yes i want an reset beacuse i've tried to play skywars and join the community cus i Know it's a great community. But it's hard when alot of people has alot of points,
     
  22. Ibzzz

    Ibzzz ...

    Points need to reset once I get 10k because I will look like a buss
     
  23. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    If points reset, I will quit.
     
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  24. Jonny_503

    Jonny_503 Guest

    I'd be sharply ok with a reset, only because regaining them wouldn't be that hard. But agreeing with a few others, many players might quit. (Not me, im staying until the last day of Squadcraft's existence)
     
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  25. Mazari

    Mazari .

    Bro, it's a reset. That's all; just because it might / might not reset does not result in to quitting; continue playing. Dude that's just not good because like seriously, ok you are 20th and I'm way off the scale because I play on my free time ( I'm a busy guy like Yonda, right @Yonda ? :p jk, not as busy as him, ) but really it's partly on enjoying, not greediness. Some say Surge is a lazy ass but seriously he is not. He might not be on but keeps control with the Console; why? Some demanded for new skywars maps but he is too busy and cannot at the moment, but guess what? He did it for good and for you people. Same with Yonda, some say aswell he is lazy but they have a tough job & they do work their ass off. If I was to be an Admin, or Owner or any kind of staff, trust me, I would do whats the best for the server and make them enjoy every single moment. Trust me, I was a staff before ( moderator) and it is a tough job ( but I successfully moderated it for a while ) but getting back on point, They know what's best and what's not best so it's better to let them make the virtuous decision. I don't mind if the reset happens or not.
     
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  26. Ibzzz

    Ibzzz ...

    Yonda is probably fapping right now
     
  27. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Hm I might not quit cause i love the ppl here :)
     
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  28. Mazari

    Mazari .

    That's the spirit.
     
  29. Definitely. I was once one of the top players but it's changed a lot since I left.
     
  30. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Can't argue with maths.
    Also, I don't play as much as I used to, meaning that I have gotten like 3k points in the last month, having the points like they are is the only reason people know who I am xD If the points reset I would probably never reach the leaderboard again, so I am like Will, I'd probably just lurk on the forums and barely ever actually play the game any more ;(
     
  31. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Maths = beautiful
     
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  32. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    Language Arts = disguisting
     
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  33. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    I would like, if points would reset, because then many people who has started like month or 2 ago, could get to the leaderboards. BUT I dont think that would be fair to people who is at the leaderboeards in top 10 or some like that. Well anyways, if pointreset comes (what I believe that will happen) I will still play skywars. If it dont come, im happy too, because then its more challenging to get on leaderboards, and I like challenges 8)
     
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  34. Mazari

    Mazari .

    For reset, the positive thing is that everyone is on the same level .
     
  35. nickbball9

    nickbball9 [Bedrock] [Emerald] [Crafter]

    Reset the points :)
     
  36. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

  37. Ibzzz

    Ibzzz ...

    Nick has 52k points and is first on the leaderboard and he wants a point reset so it has to be done
     
  38. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    54k*
     
  39. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    MATHS!
     
  40. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    I don't want a point reset :(
     
  41. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    If this does help you, I want :)
     
  42. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    I don't want one because I have worked hard for 26K points and I don't want that time wasted because some people can't get on the leaderboards like the point of skywars is to kill, win, get points and have fun but what would a lousy reset do if a bunch of people have a lot of points and don't want it?
     
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  43. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    26k is not that hard to get?
     
  44. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    okay then if your saying a big amount of points isn't hard to get that you get it then you'll be on the leaderboards and we wont need a reset
     
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  45. PuoloE

    PuoloE Skywars Player

    You should try and understand him. He probably used a lot of time and effort to get those points.
     
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  46. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Yes I did thx for understanding
     
  47. PuoloE

    PuoloE Skywars Player

    But shouldn't we at least ask people with like 20k and above how they feel about a reset?
     
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  48. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    Well once a year we need a reset is my opinion
    Than is it more competing for new players to
    To donate/online time

    Not that much but once a year
     
  49. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    There has already been a reset less than a year ago
     
  50. ForeverVengence

    ForeverVengence Hi there...

    If its once a year, idc about da points anymore :p
     
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  51. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    Sorry I didnt need to sound cocky, but I ment that I got 4k in 4 says and then I tooked 2 week break so...
     
  52. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    But im sorry that I sounded cocky :C
     
  53. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    I can get 4K in 1 day mind you...
     
  54. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    You cant get 4k in 1 day...
     
  55. Ibzzz

    Ibzzz ...

    You must grind until your fingers fall off to get 4k in 1 day
     
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  56. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

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  57. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Beautiful.
     
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  58. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    #Bootiful:3
     
  59. Bear445

    Bear445 Youtuber

    If there is a point reset I might start playing SkyWars more.
     
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  60. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    Meh too.
     
  61. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    After a player gets past 20k on the leaderboards, skill scarcely changes. After 20k the amount of points is merely a representation of how much a player is online. I think instead of a points leaderboard, there should be a skill leaderboard based on the win/loss ratio. But you can only be part of it after 1k points.
     
  62. PuoloE

    PuoloE Skywars Player

    If it resets, can we know the date?
     
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  63. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Yes probably
     
  64. That's a good idea:)
     
  65. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    I thought about it now I want a reset. I have been on skywars longer than most of the friends I have now, and have way more points then them. But I would like to compete with them to get back on the leaderboards because right now theres not much competition.
     
  66. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Good idea, as soon as the lag is fixed, though. I lose about twice as many games as I used to due to lag, until the point that I am not playing on Skywars until the lag is fixed, whenever it may be.
     
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  67. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    ^
     
  68. TheOrangePanda2

    TheOrangePanda2 Profile Pic :P

    The Leaderboards used to be so prestiges i would try really hard to get on them then when they increased the number of slots on the leaderboard (which sucks) if just became not important and so do i what I'm doing bye the bow kit every round to waste all your money :D
     
  69. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Leaderboard is overrun by donators (cough nickbbal9 cough), and for a new player even get on it would require them to play for at least 2 months (playing about 2 hours a day ish). There should be a 24 hour leaderboard, a month leaderboard, and THE leaderboard.
     
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  70. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    or just no leaderboard
     
  71. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    I like this idea, and I wouldn't mind a reset. I might even play more if it resets...
     
  72. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    The only one who really deserved to be on the leaderboards i @MCSmelter without rank so no kits RESPECT
     
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  73. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    I got on the leaderboards without donating
     
  74. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    Not as #1 for a long time
    Nickball got the points cuz bedrock so pay2win my opinion
     
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  75. Mazari

    Mazari .

    Shouldn't there be a non-donor leader board & donor leaderboard?
     
  76. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    I've never used a kit and I've gained about 60k+ points in total :p
     
  77. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    I was in a game w you and you used enderpearl kit
     
  78. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    When?!
    I used e-pearls one game the day we got them, and never again (I died coz of them, so didnt gain a single point :( )
     
  79. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    enderpearls are highly vexatious
     
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  80. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    I was in the end map and u used a bow and i killed u :p and Sweet profile pic
     
  81. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Not a bad idea
     
  82. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    I get bows in chests :D

    And ty!
     
  83. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    a bow is a formidable weapon
     
  84. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Oh lol

    And np :D
     
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  86. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    Sure you are
     
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  88. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    Imbecile
     
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  90. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    The official do you mean the official liar
     
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    I mean the official Planet Minecraft.
     
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  93. Planet Minecraft

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  94. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Ask Yonda. He'll say no. End of story. Go away.
     
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  95. if one was to quit over a simple point reset its more overreacting to someting that i just a game. if you really care that much about the points you take the game to seriously. maybe this is just my opinion considering i've not been competitive aka a "tryhard" in a long time :/
     
  96. dvwinn

    dvwinn YouTuber, SkyWars player

    My two cents: Ever since I started playing again, I gained over 7k points. This was after I bought gold, because before then I spent my points on kits. I haven't had gold for long, and I was able to get 7k points in such a short time. If people really want to get high on the leaderboards, they have to work for it, like I am. A point reset would be dumb.
     
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  97. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Even though I am #13 on the leaderboards, I would like a point reset. If leaderboard = skill then lets have a reset so the new players get a chance eh?
     
  98. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    If anyone thinks people on the leaderboard are too far away from contending with them, then ask Jonny. He got 40 thousand points in like 6 weeks, without no-lifing.
     
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  99. iDonut123

    iDonut123 Old member

    But everyone cant/want play as much as him :c
     
  100. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Then its their fault.
     
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