Why I'm leaving SquadCraft (and I'm taking tarik with me.)

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  1. Reflectivity

    Reflectivity Professional Newb

    TL;DR VERSION: I'm qutting because SquadCraft is insecure as fuck (and full of hackers and DDoSers), and Tarik is leaving because he despises the way that Yonda treats staff and players.

    Before I begin, tarik is too much of a lazy ass to write his own thread, so this is technically both of our quitting threads.

    Unfortunately, I no longer feel safe on SquadCraft. Despite only being a moderator for 2 months (and being inactive for a quarter of that,) I've already started to get DDoS'd. Obviously, getting DDoS'd is just a pain in the ass that nobody should have to put up with. Also, Jello just got hacked! They got into his paypal as well, and honestly I am scared shitless by the idea of someone taking my money.

    I really don't want add to the growing list of ex-mods, but safety comes first for me. I want to keep my money as well as computer safe, and well, SquadCraft isn't a very good place for that. Because of this, unlike the other ex-mods, I will no longer be on SquadCraft (even as a regular member,) until it becomes a safer place to play. I just can't risk my own personal safety for the sake of SquadCraft, sorry. :c

    If your butthurt about my leave (which I'm sure very few people will be,) just remember that you may see me again someday. Whether it be on a safer SquadCraft or another server, I won't be dead. c;

    As a precaution, I've removed and blocked every skype contact I have from SquadCraft. I'm really sorry about this, please do not take offence. I don't really want to do this, but unfortunately, I have to.

    Another part of why I'm leaving (and the main reason tarik is leaving) is Yonda. All of his demotions have been over dumb shit that really people did not need to be demoted over. The thread he made is about 50% bullshit, and any staff member can see that. He's promoted mods who barely know what they're doing in the ex-moderators places, and honestly that is a complete pile of shit. Especially when there's great moderator applications lying around. -.-

    (If you ask me if you can have SG mod because I and tarik left, I will find you and cut you.)

    Special thanks to the following:
    @tarikpwns: You're the staff member who I talked to the most. I'll miss you and your shitty rap. c:

    @nicole_panda: swerve
    @Patrick: I'll miss you a lot, you stupid doughnut.
    @JelloCraftHD: <3
    @yum44: Pretty much every time I needed someone to talk to, you were always there. I'll miss our chats and you teasing me. =P
    @Lexilou11 Bye you DDoSer! jk I'm going to miss you <3

    Also, tarik quits because he's too cool for school. (But seriously, he's quitting as well.)
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2014
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  2. Lexilou11

    Lexilou11 New Member

    Bye Ashley Ima miss you ;-;
     
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  3. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Awww I'm sorry to see you go Ash. Best of luck wherever you go and I hope to see you back some day :)

    <3 fatash hehe x)
     
  4. tarikpwns

    tarikpwns New Member

    Well hope you guys have fun
     
  5. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Are u blocking aswell?
     
  6. tarikpwns

    tarikpwns New Member

    nope
     
  7. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Ah. Still gna miss you tho :/
     
  8. tarikpwns

    tarikpwns New Member

    yeh same i had a fun time on squad
     
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  9. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Why did you leave :/
     
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  10. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    They stated in it saying they left for safety...
    They didn't want to be ddosed and they didn't agree with yonda.
    Don't ask stupid questions like that please
     
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  11. tarikpwns

    tarikpwns New Member

    Idgaf about ddosing i just dont agree with the methods that are being used on squadcraft intimidation is not a suitable way to train someone
     
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  12. ForeverVengence

    ForeverVengence Hi there...

    It's sad to see a good mod leave squadcraft :-:
     
  13. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    2
     
  14. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Yep
     
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  15. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    hopefully yum doesn't leave
     
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  16. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Hope not
     
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  17. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Yum is a boss
     
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  18. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Tha champion
     
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  19. nicole_panda

    nicole_panda aka Promises

    awe imma miss you fatash and tarik :c TARIK YOU FEG DONT LEAVE ME
    ;-;
     
  20. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    FATASH IS GONE OMFGHJASD
     
  21. nicole_panda

    nicole_panda aka Promises

    imam miss tarik mostly no offence fatash :3
     
  22. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    I can't believe u. Just crying rn =[
     
  23. nicole_panda

    nicole_panda aka Promises

    sowwy yumyum
     
  24. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    I need to hear the sound of water to make this better
     
  25. nicole_panda

    nicole_panda aka Promises

    wut XD
     
  26. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Jello..
     
  27. nicole_panda

    nicole_panda aka Promises

    OH WE NEED TO GET JELLO
    ILL GET HIM HOLD ON
     
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  28. Bear445

    Bear445 Youtuber

    Ashley and Tarik you are both great mods and it's sad to see you go.
     
  29. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Ashley and Tarik were*... WERE :"((((( *cries*
     
  30. nicole_panda

    nicole_panda aka Promises

  31. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    ikr =c
     
  32. Caleb Morrison

    Caleb Morrison F3arxB3astly the Sweg Master

    Don't you just hate when mods leave.... Including me as of today. I have been struggling with it for the past weeks. But as of now, im gone. Cya all<3
     
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  33. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    I'll miss you bro. You've been an awesome friend ;-;
     
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  34. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    Why you too babe :(
     
  35. Caleb Morrison

    Caleb Morrison F3arxB3astly the Sweg Master

    read my status. Sorry pat, ans grats on your dream of being a mod<3
     
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  36. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    Well you gots a good reason and I wish you all the luck in life and in the bedroom ;) And ty I'm happy I'm able to help :)
     
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  37. Caleb Morrison

    Caleb Morrison F3arxB3astly the Sweg Master

    lol. Thanks<3
     
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  38. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    fine ignore me :'(
     
  39. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    Yum yum he no ignore you he still luvs yew
     
  40. Caleb Morrison

    Caleb Morrison F3arxB3astly the Sweg Master

    I love you yum yum<3
     
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  41. ChaChaBlueFTW

    ChaChaBlueFTW Chinchilla Girl

    Why is everyone leaving now ?
     
  42. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

  43. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Because of yonda
     
  44. Yonda

    Yonda Goodbye

    Because they can't handle a mature work enviorenment in a business*
     
  45. HammieRae

    HammieRae Skyblock Fanatic

    If you think "my way or the highway" is a right move in a business than you need to wake up. It's not true. You will loose all your workers pretty quick.
     
  46. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Sad to see you guys leave.
    Big love, you have both been great members of the squadcraft community.
    ps reflec im still waiting for my art XD
     
  47. crazyepicmonster

    crazyepicmonster Skywars Pro (ish)

    Resisting the temptation to correct enviorenment
     
  48. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

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  49. Mazari

    Mazari .

    environment*
     
  50. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Your leaving too?
     
  51. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

  52. Yonda

    Yonda Goodbye

    I never said my way or the highway, did I? No. I ask them to do simple things and when they can't do that and don't have a reason I get angry, stay out of matters you clearly don't understand
     
  53. Mazari

    Mazari .

    Thats not why i got demoted. Thats all I have to say.
     
  54. HammieRae

    HammieRae Skyblock Fanatic

    Yonda, that was in a old forum post you locked and I can't seem to find.. You should also be open to suggestions to help the server.. For example I have been on skyblock all day yesterday and it was really busy, almost a full server, then bam, everyone timed out.. It that about 4-5 times... The servers need improvement and mods hear what the players have to say. They want to come to you but you shoo them away. I have one prime example of that, the suffixes.
    Teamwork, understanding and trust needs to be there between the admin and the mods. I guess not in this case.
     
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  55. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Ohphew
     
  56. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    I dislike it when Squad is referred to as a business when we talk about mods. It is only ever related to profits for two individuals, and so it only feels like a business for me when we refer to the income from purchases made by players. Mods aren't employees, we are volunteers. I agree volunteers must obey someone higher in hierarchy, but good volunteers are hard to find, as we have seen with the new ones who have been modded
     
  57. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Are concurrent mods aloud to suggest people they think may make a good mod, instead of the current system of apply and hope they are going to make a good mod?
     
  58. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Idk. Apparently mikeydon and moist sausage were recommendations. Dunno who in their right mind recommended tho lol
     
  59. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Well I was going to say that maybe that system would bring up people that can truly be great mods, but clearly some of the current mods aren't good enough at being mods themselves to give good recommendations :(
     
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  60. HammieRae

    HammieRae Skyblock Fanatic

    Exactly! Why look like it as a busines? But there is teamwork taught in schools, at work, and everyday lives... enculding severs.. this is where we have fun, not make money. Yeah, I understand you get paid and put money into this server but you cant treat it like work.. I know you have people on your back about everything... maybe listen to what they are on your back about?
     
  61. Yonda

    Yonda Goodbye

    This is work. For myself and surge. Neither of you are listening, it is a business regardless of what you say. You are on our backs about stupid things when we have MUCH bigger problems to think about. Step back for a second and look at the huge scale of it. Then try and argue with me without seeming idiotic.
     
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  62. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    This is not going to end well

    Before this is going to be a big fight start a conversation plz

    To argue with each other

    Srry if its not the time to say this
     
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  63. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    peace and love!
     
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  64. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Before reading, just take into account that this will be my last post on the matter.

    I, nor HammieRae denied the fact that it is a business. But when dealing with matters regarding mods on the server, it may be better to be looked at otherwise. Like I said before, we aren't employees, rather volunteers. Volunteers work for no salary, like us. Yes, all (or most I should hope) enjoy the work and that's why I try and do it to the best of my ability whenever I am on, but mods aren't the money rakers of the server.

    We are there solely for the purpose of helping out players, enforcing the rules and dealing with rulebreakers accordingly. Yes, we may add value but I know players don't donate because of mods. Nor do moderators do their jobs for the reason of upping the donations for you and Surge.

    That's the reason why I dislike us being referred to along with the financial side of things, cause that's not for us, it's not in our interest. It's yours and Surge's matter.

    I've tried to keep this as respectful as possible but I suppose it's up to you to interpret it as you wish
     
  65. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    What yummy said!

    And if i can get money for it i wouldnt accept it because its not the way how to earn it.

    Its our free time not work time its a game not life.
     
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  66. HammieRae

    HammieRae Skyblock Fanatic

    Yes, I understand that there is more that meets the eye to us players. I understand that you guys face problems every day some big some small. We all have problems, I can personally vouch for that. We also need to teach people with respect about everything.
    If we were looking at this as a business ill go with it. Yonda and surge are owners of a company, they keep the lights on and the production going. We ( players) are people who shop at this business and the mods are the workers... if we something that is broken or if you in limited supply of something we confront the workers. Then they talk to you. If nothing gets fixed or supply is not stocked, you wilo loose business.
    There to show the "business" part of what I am saying.. as admin and owner you will get blamed and hated on with EVERYTHING but it is your task to embrace the hate or just shrug it off.
    I am ending this as well, my last post about this. I only spoke up for my friends and seeing the way they are treated, just like I am at my place of employment. I hate seeing people hurt, me hurting people and people getting disrespect. Friends will take you far in this world, I have defiantly made the best of friends on this server and learned new things.
    I wish the best of luck to all the remaining mods out there and all the ones that left.
    And yonda, im not hating on you. If you ever want to talk, I am all eyes and ears. I love to listen if you ever need a friend.
    From,
    HammieRae
     
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  67. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    I agree
    But
    We arent workers we are here to keep the mess out of the buisness (hacker/ddosers/spammers/othercrap)
    And dont forget to let it feel like home
     
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  68. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    I would love to volunteer, but it seems the owners are unsure of whether they are accepting :(
     
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  69. Yonda

    Yonda Goodbye

    Every "volunteer" has the right to leave anytime they want. I'm not stopping them I simply replace them. Older mods hating on the new ones just because they haven't been taught yet? Teach them. Help them if they are doing a bad job. I don't have time to spend in a 1 to 1 session with every single mod. So I generalize them and if 1 screws up they are all screw ups. But the mods know i'm not talking to them if it wasn't them I just simply don't have the time to personalize it. I've said this previously. I'm 16, in college, social life, working on a car and doing alot for squadcraft (Most of it listed in my demotions thread in the news section). So maybe you'll understand if the first time you see me I just snap. You just have to understand that i'm not actually mean and if you message me 1 to 1 I will maybe talk to you. IF IT'S SOCIAL. If the only reason you message me is to ask for something or tell me about an issue I won't message back. If you don't beleive I won't talk back to people examples are: Reflect, chacha, katni, joshy, dibs, ging, jesusf. Everybody else hasn't bothered to message me in a social way so I haven't bothered with them. Like honestly you say "Squad can't run without mods" You all once said "What if we all quit what then?". Simple answer. I moderated the entirety of squadcraft every server of it ALONE for a year. I can do it again if need be if I can't find good help. You're acting like I ask you to work 24 hours a day but when I come on I maybe ask you to go to a different server and moderate it for atleast 30 minutes. And you can understand me getting angry when people do not listen to that fact. No moderation = less donations, less donations = less money, less money = squadcraft SHUTDOWN. Let me paint this for you. This is surges full time job, all his money comes from here, his rent his bills. EVERYTHING. If mods are affecting donations by not moderating somewhere it stresses me because they could make surge homeless, that is what i'm most stressed about. I don't care so much about myself, i'm more worried about him and the bigger picture. It isn't that hard to just go to a server you don't want to for atleast 30 minutes for surge, is it?
     
  70. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

  71. HammieRae

    HammieRae Skyblock Fanatic

    Im sorry, I wanted to end this but I just have one question. It pains me to say it but I want to know.
    If this is surges full time job, where he gets his money for bills an rent ( most if not all have to deal with, im in that same boat) why isn't the servers in full, working, order? I understand that there is plug-ins and some dont mix with others.. but I started on this server 2 months before noah left. Ill say this I have never seen squadcraft have more problems now than it did when I first came here. I understand that a sever has and will always have its trouble but im not looking for that answer im looking for the truth.
     
  72. Yonda

    Yonda Goodbye

    Honestly, I have no idea.
     
  73. HammieRae

    HammieRae Skyblock Fanatic

    Ok, thank you for talking with me.
     
  74. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    @Yonda It seems like people (unfortunately such as me) just love to generalise those of authority as the screw-ups if something isn't going perfectly. Now I see that it isn't your fault, and that you are, and always have been doing your best for the community. Sorry if I offended you in any way in the past week, I was just really delusional in my quest to become a Skywars moderator, ignorantly stepping over the line and not even bothering to get to know who my potential boss would of been-instead assuming that he is the cause of the recent surge (<-just realised the pun lol) of bad events. So, what type of car are you building? What did you take for your A-Levels?
     
  75. Yonda

    Yonda Goodbye

    volkswagen golf gl 98. And it was a carpentry course in college. No A levels
     
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  76. Jerzy5821

    Jerzy5821 JJmac's Brother

    How was that 1v1 <3
     
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  77. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    How far along are you in building the vw? You wanna be a carpenter when you're older? Sounds like the complete opposite of being an admin on a minecraft server lol
     
  78. Jerzy5821

    Jerzy5821 JJmac's Brother

    Yonda... Other than this, ive always wanted to know, I know you hangout with your friends and all but do you have another job. If so,what? I just wanted to know how you work and stuff :)
     
  79. Reflectivity

    Reflectivity Professional Newb

    My god. This is a resignation post. Talk about anything related to myself or Tarik (preferably positive xD)
    Sucking up to Yonda, and trying to push for new mod applications to be accepted will NOT improve your chances of getting modded, Jerzy. c:

    @Mods: Could you lock this? It's gone far more off topic than I ever would have hoped, and honestly I thought people would actually discuss Tarik and I leaving rather than bitching and sucking up so that their mod apps will get looked at. -.-
     
  80. Jerzy5821

    Jerzy5821 JJmac's Brother

    Why is this directed at me? All I said was I wanted if he had another job... And im not sucking up. Also when did I say anything about mod? I though you left :p
     
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  81. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    I'm not sucking up to Yonda, because then I would have an agenda, and having an agenda will get you no-where in life. I just realised that I've been a dick and thought I might as well put it right, and see what happens from there.
     
  82. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    Ya I think I'll lock this because the while reason it was posted to explain why they left and it's expanded to this. You want to continue this conversation start a new thread
     
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  83. Yonda

    Yonda Goodbye

    You telling me I can't talk to people on a random thread on my own website? Rude
     
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  84. Patrick

    Patrick Former Staff

    No no no I locked it to refrain from people arguing over it.
     
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